URGENT Since today (06/28/2020) BAS is detected as a bot by google after UPDATE

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  • @UserTrue Он уже тестовый скрипт выложил. А у меня прям сегодня фингеры кончились :) https://community.bablosoft.com/topic/11702/browserautomationstudio-22-8-1-has-been-released/3

  • @UserTrue hi thank you for help, do you have a link to download previous versions of BAS ?

  • @Bigma said in URGENT Since today (06/28/2020) BAS is detected as a bot by google after UPDATE:

    @UserTrue Он уже тестовый скрипт выложил. А у меня прям сегодня фингеры кончились :) https://community.bablosoft.com/topic/11702/browserautomationstudio-22-8-1-has-been-released/3

    I hope to learn Russian one day :))

  • @jonigood said in URGENT Since today (06/28/2020) BAS is detected as a bot by google after UPDATE:

    u for help, do you have a link to download previous versions of BAS ?

    Previous versions are in the folder ". \Browser Automation Studio\apps\22.7.1"

  • look at:
    C:\Users\YouName\AppData\Roaming\Browser Automation Studio\apps\22.7.1
    ore you can download by this link
    http://bablosoft.com/distr/BrowserAutomationStudio/22.7.1/BrowserAutomationStudioInstallAllInOne.exe

  • OK i just test whit BAS version 22.7.1, even with the old BAS version, BAS is now detected as a bot, really ? would it be a coincidence that the same day of the BAS update, google also update its code and now detects BAS as a bot ? hard to believe but is possible ...

    In both cases it is a disaster :) the bot its systematically detected regardless of the configuration, as said @Bigma we can test the config provided on this page: https://community.bablosoft.com/topic/11702/browserautomationstudio-22-8-1-has-been-released/3

    To help developers, can someone else who usually works on google with BAS confirm that they have the same problem from yesterday ?

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  • @Bigma said in URGENT Since today (06/28/2020) BAS is detected as a bot by google after UPDATE:

    @UserTrue Говорил я что серьезные баги лучше выкладывать в личку :) Вот вам и webgl. Большой брат следит за нами.

    Весна уже прошла...

  • А как ты узнал, что проблема в веб гл? 🤨

  • @FastSpace Я потер сообщение подумав о том что он берет FP хрома, но юзер успел процитировать меня.

  • Can confirm, seeing same issues on my end. Anyone know a work around?

  • @FastSpace, @Bigma, @UserTrue,
    Friends, i don't understand your post in russian, and google translation and the russian language seems a joke, it translates completely wrong, please write in english in order to have a follow-up, thank you

  • @jonigood It really was a joke, you don't need to translate it ))

  • @UserTrue :))) ok , one day i would laugh at Russian jokes :)

    For now I'm just trying to understand the problem with google, i did the same test (google recaptcha v3) with another bot completely different from BAS, this bot get 0.9 google score :/ , it seems that google has reinforced these bot detection rules, i hope that the developers of BAS really considers this problem.

    Personally its makes my bot totally unusable for now

  • Are you from Dong Lao?

  • I don't have a problem with google.
    Is it reCaptcha that is not working out for you or is it Google services like youtube?
    Don't check your score and instead try it and see what score you have on reCaptcha v2.
    If you only have to solve 1 or 2 pages it means you score is more than 0.7
    If you get slowly fading pictures in sequence it means you score is 0.3
    If you get 3-4 pages and "solve multiple" and sometimes even fails you have score 0.1

  • @0xSentinel said in URGENT Since today (06/28/2020) BAS is detected as a bot by google after UPDATE:

    I don't have a problem with google.
    Is it reCaptcha that is not working out for you or is it Google services like youtube?
    Don't check your score and instead try it and see what score you have on reCaptcha v2.
    If you only have to solve 1 or 2 pages it means you score is more than 0.7
    If you get slowly fading pictures in sequence it means you score is 0.3
    If you get 3-4 pages and "solve multiple" and sometimes even fails you have score 0.1

    HI, thank you for help, i already try to run my bot whit 0.3 score of course, depending on some conditions and variables ... my bot create a google account, and since this problem i get sms verification page from google, befor this problem my score wase 0.7 and no SMS verification ... so something change somewhere ... if you check also whit FingerPrintManager you get same score (0.3), this definitely means that the problem does not come from bot config, FingerprintManager had a socre of 0.7 also before this Problem/Update ... bother :/

  • @jonigood Hi,

    First of all, recaptcha v3 score and gmail signup are unralted.

    1. If the problem is with recaptcha score, please use "Recatpcha V3" action with 2captcha service.
    2. If the problem is with Gmail signup, please use recent update, PerfectCanvas and "Receive sms" module. sms-activate service seems to perform good. I don't think that it is possible to do multiple registrations without sms, if it worked for some, it doesn't means, that it will work forever and you definitely shouldn't rely on that.

    As long as you are a premium user, if you have any more question, please try to describe it in details with steps to reproduce the problem, and send to premium email.

  • @support Hi, thank you for taking the time to answer.

    • First of all, recaptcha v3 score and gmail signup are unralted.

    I understand your deduction which is half true, google recaptcha and gmail its two different service, if recaptcha gives you a bad score, you have no chance of having a good score in another google service of course, either for account creation or for Google ads analysis for example which is one of the most elevated security level by google because of click fraud ...

    When another bot gets 0.7/0.9 on the same test, i think is that enough reason to not get around the problem.

    • I don't think that it is possible to do multiple registrations without sms, if it worked for some, it doesn't means, that it will work forever and you definitely shouldn't rely on that.

    Certainly yes, creating a new google account is just an example, for the sake of a undetectable tool we are looking for the best possible anti-detection of course, and a score of 0.3 is not effective especially for an exceptional tool like BAS, so to use option like "PerfectCanvas" and "Receive sms" is just a way to get around the problem despite that it is two verry great tools, in my opinion the only "solution" is to find what google has to find to suddenly give to BAS a low score, i repeat that we were 0.7 until before yesterday.

    • As long as you are a premium user, if you have any more question, please try to describe it in details with steps to reproduce the problem, and send to premium email.

    I posted on the forum because i think a forum it is made for this :))) moreover that iam not the only one affected by this problem. Higher up in this post i have already provided the details and even a functional test project to test and see the leack.

    I will post here if I find a technical theory of this sudden problem,
    thank you all

  • @jonigood

    As support mentioned you should know that reCaptcha and Google services registrations does not use the same techniques to determine the authority of the visitors.

    Example G services draws canvases when signing up to determine the likelihood if you lie about your UA and base a score of that out of a lot of other things.

    While reCaptcha uses native functions and doesn't draw canvas to determine the likelihood of lied OS. That's why it's harder to pass reCaptcha than it is to sign up.

    One example if you tell recaptcha you visit from Android with Chrome 83+ that must means that every function from 83+ should be supported. For this example:
    This useragent means it must support a relatively new feature called "Native Share" so running this code should return a true:

    if(navigator.canShare(data)) {
      // CanShare
    }
    

    While if you use a Desktop and claim to use the same browser, it will return an "undefined function".
    This means you can't possibly use Android and Chrome 83+ and you will be scored 0.1 but still have the chance to prove you are human (maybe) through multiple hoops.

    Mobile uses touch events Desktop uses Click events. If you claim to use mobile but sends click events thats a bad sign.

    Same goes if you use Chrome but claim to use Firefox, Firefox have functions Chrome doesn't support like moz so if your browser code doesn't support it means you cannot possibly use Firefox and again your score will be low. This is why you sometimes have more success than others since the browser engine is sometimes updated it means its harder to detect but eventually new functions are released to the Chrome or Chromium which leaves the browser obsolete. Sometimes vital functions that gets easy to distinguish than others.

    A lot of other techniques I know they use so this is just one reason why recaptcha is different from the signups. But you are partly right they share some common features but not all. Recaptcha is more advanced and maybe that is because a lot of sites rely on reCaptcha to stop bad browsers and bots from mass actions. Even if you bypass captcha with bot, just implementing captcha to a site rates the limits of bots actions.

    With all this said BAS is the most throughoutly implemented framework for automation whatever yo uuse it for specially the fingerprint technology. And most sites you work with you won't have a problem as most sites doesn't have advanced detections like this. You can try compare Geckodriver with Chromedriver yourself if you want to explore more between the difference automating Firefox and Chrome.